Uncle Sam wants US Muslims to serve

homeofthebrave · Post by **homeofthebrave** » Fri Dec 29, 2006 6:01 am

Here's a nice little article from the Christian Science Monitor:

Uncle Sam wants US Muslims to serve

By Richard Whittle,
Contributor to The Christian Science Monitor
Wed Dec 27, 3:00 AM ET

WASHINGTON - As US troops battle Islamic extremists abroad, the Pentagon and the armed forces are reaching out to Muslims at home.

An underlying goal is to interest more Muslims in the military, which needs officers and troops who can speak Arabic and other relevant languages and understand the culture of places like Iraq and Afghanistan. The effort is also part of a larger outreach. Pentagon officials say they are striving for mutual understanding with Muslims at home and abroad and to win their support for US war aims. Among the efforts to attract and retain Muslim cadets:

*West Point and the other service academies have opened Muslim prayer rooms, as have military installations.

*Imams serve full- and part-time as chaplains at the academies and some bases.

*Top non-Muslim officers and Pentagon officials have taken to celebrating religious events with Muslims overseas and here in the US.

"There is a message here, and that is that Muslims and the Islamic religion are totally compatible with Western values," says Deputy Defense Secretary Gordon England in an interview.

For the past two years, Mr. England has hosted an iftar, the feast that ends the daytime fast during the Muslim holy month of Ramadan, at the Army Navy Country Club in Arlington, Va. His guests have included ambassadors, leaders of the Muslim-American community, and Muslims who serve in the US armed forces.

President Bush also hosted an iftar at the White House in October, as he has done for several years. Gen. Robert Magnus, the assistant commandant of the Marine Corps, held one the same month at the Marine Corps Barracks in Washington for defense attachés from predominantly Muslim nations.

The Marines also have allowed Muslims in their ranks at Quantico some dispensations to make it easier to practice their religion, says Lieutenant Commander Saifulislam, a US citizen born and raised in Bangladesh. During Ramadan, "they're allowed to have some time off to prepare for their fasting break and not to go to physical training" while fasting, he says.

Col. John Cook, the senior chaplain at West Point, says that after media reports about the academy's new Muslim prayer room, he got a call from a self-described "concerned citizen" who fretted that "the Muslims are taking over the world."

"I told him, 'I'm a Christian chaplain, but I have the responsibility to provide for other faith groups,' " Colonel Cook says. Protestant, Catholic, and Jewish cadets all have their own chapels at West Point, he notes.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/csm/20061227/ts ... uslimtroop

Post by **ikaotiki** » Fri Dec 29, 2006 7:16 am

CS Monitor seems quite biased to me....
and they have some WILD ass stories sometimes....
but back to the topic...

makes sense the US would want more Muslims to join....
to show they are not in this for religious reasons...
its not about defeating Muslims
its about defeating radical Islam...
as well as radical "any religion"....

jimithing · Post by **jimithing** » Sat Dec 30, 2006 4:25 am

yeah, i agree, i have known many muslims and though the war has made me despise them at times a little, it really bothers me how these extremists outcasts can ruin the worlds second largest religion by being assholes. its just mind boggling how stupid this is getting.

stormseal · Post by **stormseal** » Sat Dec 30, 2006 12:28 pm

and why shouldnt US muslims play their fair part in America, including fighting for it

they take an oath of Allegiance to serve and protect America, and its about time they were told to honour that committment

nasser3050 · Post by **nasser3050** » Sun Dec 31, 2006 3:02 am

fight for america?!

just because i was born here doesnt mean i have to give shit back to this sinnfull land

stormseal · Post by **stormseal** » Sun Dec 31, 2006 3:06 am

well in that case you should get back to where your clan originated from

grayhat · Post by **grayhat** » Sun Dec 31, 2006 4:10 am

For once I'm going to have to agree with StormSeal. No bother what religion you are , wether your Muslim Or Jew or w/e, if you are living in a country and are not willing to fight for it, then you don't belong there.

Im a muslim, Im not going to join the army at all ( If I would it would be the air force ) but if there was a draft I'd fight my time.

All you fellow muslims need to either call yourself Americans or get the fuck out.

Yeah I am a faithful and muslim and said that, call me kaffir lover if you wish.

Salaan and Happy Eid.

Post by **ikaotiki** » Sun Dec 31, 2006 6:07 am

grayhat wrote:For once I'm going to have to agree with StormSeal. No bother what religion you are , wether your Muslim Or Jew or w/e, if you are living in a country and are not willing to fight for it, then you don't belong there.

Im a muslim, Im not going to join the army at all ( If I would it would be the air force ) but if there was a draft I'd fight my time.

All you fellow muslims need to either call yourself Americans or get the fuck out.

Yeah I am a faithful and muslim and said that, call me kaffir lover if you wish.

Salaan and Happy Eid.

stormseal · Post by **stormseal** » Sun Dec 31, 2006 5:16 pm

RESPECT

grayhat wrote:For once I'm going to have to agree with StormSeal. No bother what religion you are , wether your Muslim Or Jew or w/e, if you are living in a country and are not willing to fight for it, then you don't belong there.

Im a muslim, Im not going to join the army at all ( If I would it would be the air force ) but if there was a draft I'd fight my time.

All you fellow muslims need to either call yourself Americans or get the fuck out.

Yeah I am a faithful and muslim and said that, call me kaffir lover if you wish.

Salaan and Happy Eid.

Mr_Cookie · Post by **Mr_Cookie** » Sun Dec 31, 2006 6:28 pm

I also Agree with Grayhat on this, u should respect and honor the country u live in if u dont want to join the army then at least do something useful that can benefit u and the country ur living in.. no1 is forcing u to stay there so if u dont like it then feel free to go back to where it suits u best

stormseal · Post by **stormseal** » Sun Dec 31, 2006 8:55 pm

RESPECT AGAIN!!

Mr_Cookie wrote:I also Agree with Grayhat on this, u should respect and honor the country u live in if u dont want to join the army then at least do something useful that can benefit u and the country ur living in.. no1 is forcing u to stay there so if u dont like it then feel free to go back to where it suits u best

stormseal · Post by **stormseal** » Tue Jan 02, 2007 1:42 pm

freedom and democracy doesnt come cheap, if you are not prepared to defend your country, and that freedom/democracy, then you should move elsewhere. I hope they do start compulsory military service in America then we will see the real Americans and get rid of loads of Paracites, if they refuse then they should have NO entitlement to State Benifits of any kind

nasser3050 · Post by **nasser3050** » Tue Jan 02, 2007 5:25 pm

grayhat wrote:For once I'm going to have to agree with StormSeal. No bother what religion you are , wether your Muslim Or Jew or w/e, if you are living in a country and are not willing to fight for it, then you don't belong there.

Im a muslim, Im not going to join the army at all ( If I would it would be the air force ) but if there was a draft I'd fight my time.

All you fellow muslims need to either call yourself Americans or get the fuck out.

Yeah I am a faithful and muslim and said that, call me kaffir lover if you wish.

Salaan and Happy Eid.

u just proved that u are not a muslim. how long have you and your relatives been in this country? my parents immigrated here before having me. well if you want to go fight alongside "people" that rape our woman, have night raids killing innocent families and call us terrible names then go ahead, you are no muslim in my eyes....

Fighting alongside the american coalition these days is like someone back in Prophet Muhammads (PBUH) time fighting alongside the mushrikeen against the muslims.

Make up your mind, rape your own people and help ruin more lives by supporting the police army or do something good for your people

grayhat · Post by **grayhat** » Tue Jan 02, 2007 7:00 pm

First of all, Where do you live?

If you live in either Europe or America, you are a hypocrite, munafiqueen.

I don't care wether you call me muslim or not because Allah knows I am muslim.

When did I say i support the governments foreign policies?
All i said if i was forced to fight, I will fight.
If you live in a country you wouldn't die for you don't belong there.

And, my family is orginally from Afghanistan, they immigrated to Deutchland during the Ruski- Mujahideen war and I lived in Deutchland for 7 years, before moving to America.

Look at you, you think your some mujahideen , but yet. You spend your time on a forum in the interweb calling other traitors.

And once again your stereotyping all Americans or non believers into being people who call us names and rape our women.

The insurgents in Iraq are no better than the soldiers who rape because they murder innocents and they incite sectarian violence.

Go back to school and educate yourself, read the Qu'ran and learn the true definition of Jihad and the rules of war. Then come back to me and we will debate.
because at the moment you are nothing to me, just a young teenage muslim who has no idea what Islam truly represents.

Salaam.

Post by **ikaotiki** » Tue Jan 02, 2007 7:04 pm

nasser3050 wrote:
grayhat wrote:For once I'm going to have to agree with StormSeal. No bother what religion you are , wether your Muslim Or Jew or w/e, if you are living in a country and are not willing to fight for it, then you don't belong there.

Im a muslim, Im not going to join the army at all ( If I would it would be the air force ) but if there was a draft I'd fight my time.

All you fellow muslims need to either call yourself Americans or get the fuck out.

Yeah I am a faithful and muslim and said that, call me kaffir lover if you wish.

Salaan and Happy Eid.
u just proved that u are not a muslim. how long have you and your relatives been in this country? my parents immigrated here before having me. well if you want to go fight alongside "people" that rape our woman, have night raids killing innocent families and call us terrible names then go ahead, you are no muslim in my eyes....

Fighting alongside the american coalition these days is like someone back in Prophet Muhammads (PBUH) time fighting alongside the mushrikeen against the muslims.

Make up your mind, rape your own people and help ruin more lives by supporting the police army or do something good for your people

lmao....
more twisted logic...
its hilarious....